Worcester Greenstar or Ideal Logic Plus?

[Whyme]

Vaillant boilers with HW controls. 🙂
Vaillant controls not user friendly 🙁

yeah thats my greivance that theve got rid of the knobs on the facia, think you can still get analogue clocks for them though :smile5:

 

[Buller44]

Salus are really hitting the market now. There plug in kits are awesome easy to install and very user friendly.

 

[Whyme]

Salus are really hitting the market now. There plug in kits are awesome easy to install and very user friendly.

salus pumps arent bad either.

 

[dancinplumba]

Ah, controls,,,,all down to the end user, the only one with 5 Year warranty is......Delta Dore 🙂

 

[vern]

Ah, controls,,,,all down to the end user, the only one with 5 Year warranty is......Delta Dore 🙂

Had any problems Steve?

 

[leethegasman]

the only thing i find poor on the ideal is the plastic flue parts/ clamp. The boilers themselves seem to work very well and have been getting a good rep.

worcesters are nice boilers imo, i have fitted plenty over the last few years without any problems at all and there customer service is top notch. They will even fix a boiler fault under warrantee which is down to sludge in the system once without complaint.

us installers can be very opinionated about these things as one bad experience and we tend to advise others to avoid at all costs. You have to take things in prespective really.

by the way avoid baxi GA boilers, they are pants.......... infact pants with skid marks in them. 🙂

Agree with above

 

[TBServices]

Surprised by the big anti Worcester feedback!

Iv rarely had any problems, plus worcester are brilliant if there any issues under warranty! 5 or 7 year guarantee! I bet the logic 5 year guarantee is not worth the paper it's written on!

Plus Worcester scored highest above vaillant in which recent reliability scores !

Ideal are **** hot at the minute. Proper turned the company around. Plenty of good feedback on here and lots of engineers sorting any problems fast. There was a guy on here with a standard logic with leaky HEX that got repaired for free even though warranty expired.

 

[AWheating]

i told you we are opinionated 🙂

 

[moogwai]

Been to so many leaky wb's latley would say logic all the way.... Installed quite a few and the call backs I had was the custurds couldnt work out the filling loop!! I much prefer the 831 fitted with a honeywell cmt927....30 odd installs last year without any call backs aint bad.

 

[glenno1]

logic

 

[snoopy8888]

logic for me

 

[TBServices]

Just put another logic in today. Love everything about that boiler, even down to the fact that there's no polystyrene in the box so it will fit in the customers recycling bin easy. Really well thought out.

 

[gassafe]

Just put another logic in today. Love everything about that boiler, even down to the fact that there's no polystyrene in the box so it will fit in the customers recycling bin easy. Really well thought out.

The box or the boiler?

 

[MrBassi]

Im a WB kinda guy, altho I find Logic + popping alot more these days.....

 

[SecretBob]

New to forum and first time post, appending to old thread rather than start a new one.

I have a 20 year old Ideal Classic boiler that failed the annual gas service last week after the engineer found two sheared off screws seized in the flue hood. Now can't reseal the fan, part no longer available (I've checked with Ideal), new boiler required.

I've had a couple of scary quotes, with recommendations for either a WB 18Ri, or an Ideal Logic Plus 18KW. The boiler price is very similar, but am not sure which way to go. The WB has a 7 year warranty, and I always thought they were good boilers until I started reading this thread. The Ideal I've had has been pretty good - been in the house 10 years and only had a PCB replaced, other than that no problems.

There are other issues between the two around the flue outlet and brickwork required, which leans me further towards the Logic plus, but I read quite a few IDEAL horror stories and dislikes on other pages before finding this forum.

Guess I'm just looking for a little more advice to sway me the right way. Grateful for any feedback.

thanks

 

[A1P]

New to forum and first time post, appending to old thread rather than start a new one.

I have a 20 year old Ideal Classic boiler that failed the annual gas service last week after the engineer found two sheared off screws seized in the flue hood. Now can't reseal the fan, part no longer available (I've checked with Ideal), new boiler required.

I've had a couple of scary quotes, with recommendations for either a WB 18Ri, or an Ideal Logic Plus 18KW. The boiler price is very similar, but am not sure which way to go. The WB has a 7 year warranty, and I always thought they were good boilers until I started reading this thread. The Ideal I've had has been pretty good - been in the house 10 years and only had a PCB replaced, other than that no problems.

There are other issues between the two around the flue outlet and brickwork required, which leans me further towards the Logic plus, but I read quite a few IDEAL horror stories and dislikes on other pages before finding this forum.

Guess I'm just looking for a little more advice to sway me the right way. Grateful for any feedback.

thanks

You say scary quotes.Give some idea of price and where you are based and we can give you some idea of whether the quotes are reasonable.Is it a straight forward swap ,boiler going back in same place ? Any pipework changes etc.If the Ideal fits your requirements and means less issues with flue and repair of brickwork it might well be OK to choose it for that reason.Is there much difference between the guarantees?

 

[SecretBob]

You say scary quotes.Give some idea of price and where you are based and we can give you some idea of whether the quotes are reasonable.Is it a straight forward swap ,boiler going back in same place ? Any pipework changes etc.If the Ideal fits your requirements and means less issues with flue and repair of brickwork it might well be OK to choose it for that reason.Is there much difference between the guarantees?

The two quotes I've had so far are just shy of £2K, looking at online boiler prices without discount, it's looking like close to £1K labour for a days work (both quoted me a day to do). I've 2 more quotes to come,including a British Gas one Just for a laugh).

The new boiler will go back in the same place, the IDEAL can apparently use the same flue vent and the pipework should be the same or close to it. The WB will need brick work done to reposition the flue, and will require some pipework mods. The building regs have changed since the original boiler was installed so the existing flue vent will need a plume to extend it away from a window. Both quotes have included a magnaclean install. the WB is being quoted with 7 year warranty, the IDEAL with 5.

£2K may not be "scary" in the scheme of boiler installations, but for me given that it is a completely un-budgeted, large chunk of change to find, it's pretty scary😱mg_smile:.

I hadn't given much thought to an IDEAL replacement until the second plumber came round with the suggestion. I like the idea given that it can pretty much replace what's there, but was a little put off by some other threads found when googling IDEAL boilers, and the Logic range getting a fair bit of negative like....until I came on here.

thanks

 

[leethegasman]

New to forum and first time post, appending to old thread rather than start a new one.

I have a 20 year old Ideal Classic boiler that failed the annual gas service last week after the engineer found two sheared off screws seized in the flue hood. Now can't reseal the fan, part no longer available (I've checked with Ideal), new boiler required.

I've had a couple of scary quotes, with recommendations for either a WB 18Ri, or an Ideal Logic Plus 18KW. The boiler price is very similar, but am not sure which way to go. The WB has a 7 year warranty, and I always thought they were good boilers until I started reading this thread. The Ideal I've had has been pretty good - been in the house 10 years and only had a PCB replaced, other than that no problems.

There are other issues between the two around the flue outlet and brickwork required, which leans me further towards the Logic plus, but I read quite a few IDEAL horror stories and dislikes on other pages before finding this forum.

Guess I'm just looking for a little more advice to sway me the right way. Grateful for any feedback.

thanks

Good boiler the classic shame it's got to go.it all depends where you look and who you ask the reality is that we all install different makes of boilers for all different reasons I personally install Worcester Bosch my reasons are they have good RD customer and installer support.and good warranty.
My advice would be find someone local who has been trading at least a couple of years ask friends and neighbours most people will only recommend someone they are happy with themselves and take there advice.

 

[julesverne]

i would go ideal logic all day before fitting a Worcester, but that's my preference. Also i can offer a 7 year warranty on ideal logic plus same as Worcester.

 

[Scott_D]

i would go ideal logic all day before fitting a Worcester, but that's my preference. Also i can offer a 7 year warranty on ideal logic plus same as Worcester.

How are you getting the extra 2 years on the logic plus?